{"id":29297,"date":"2025-07-30T15:57:05","date_gmt":"2025-07-30T15:57:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/breakingnews.azontree.com\/?p=29297"},"modified":"2025-07-30T15:57:05","modified_gmt":"2025-07-30T15:57:05","slug":"advanced-stats-for-packers-fans-101-success-rate-pff-scores","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/breakingnews.azontree.com\/?p=29297","title":{"rendered":"Advanced Stats for Packers Fans 101: Success Rate &#038; PFF Scores"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Before the season starts, a quick run through of advanced stat concepts.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cheeseheadtv.com\/sites\/default\/files\/styles\/insert_image_to_post_body\/public\/post\/2025\/07\/usatsi_26708581_168419325_lowres.jpg?itok=GRpD3Jq0\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The long wait is finally over: the Packers are back in Green Bay and they\u2019ll be playing football until (hopefully) February. As the team begins to form its identity, build chemistry, and build towards that pivotal matchup with the Detroit Lions on September 7th, there\u2019s not much for us fans to do. Sure, we can (and do) stay glued to the internet for every scrap of news tweeted out by those in attendance, but again, there\u2019s not much that we can (i) do (i) with those scraps. Pads come on only this week, and joint practices \/ preseason games can only do so much to scratch the itch of real football.\u00a0Instead, what I\u2019ll be doing for the next several weeks\u00a0 is preparing for the season by helping you all become more familiar with an increasingly large part of the game of football: advanced stats. From EPA, to DVOA, to Pro Football Focus and everything in between, these names have become such a large part of the game that it\u2019s no longer a surprise to hear them cited by\u00a0GMs\u00a0and\u00a0head coaches\u00a0as a not insignificant part of NFL gameplanning.<\/p>\n<p>What I\u2019ll\u00a0<em>not\u00a0<\/em>be doing is providing a case for why advanced statistical metrics should be the end all, be all of evaluating football, because they shouldn\u2019t be. These tools are just that: tools. I leave it to the individual to determine exactly how much stock to put into these ideas, and how much to leave up to the good ol\u2019 eye test.\u00a0Over the next few weeks I\u2019ll be exploring the idea behind, and the efficacy of, some of the most popular of these stats, how to find them, and how they relate to the Green Bay Packers. Today I\u2019ll be going over two concepts: the easiest to understand in Success Rate, and perhaps the most controversial: the PFF grading system.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pbs.twimg.com\/media\/GxFMb06bUAExcTC?format=jpg&amp;name=4096x4096\" alt=\"Aaron Nagler (@AaronNagler) \/ X\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Success rate is extremely easy to understand, and football fans should be able to recognize its value right away. Simply put, it measures whether a team\u2019s offense can efficiently gain yards. In order to be recorded as a successful play, you need six yards on first down, half the yards remaining on second down, and all the remaining yards on third (or fourth) down. That\u2019s it.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, there\u2019s a bit more nuance than that. Let\u2019s break it down.<\/p>\n<p>According to the textbook definition of the stat, on first down a team needs to gain 60% of yards needed for a first down. This is usually six yards of course, but following a holding penalty for example which results in a 1st and 20, the offense would need twelve yards to stay on track, and thus earn a successful play. On second down it looks for 50% of yards needed. So on a standard set of downs, if the offense had a successful play on first, leading to a 2nd and 4, they would need only a two yard gain to receive a successful play. However, say the offense suffered a sack on first down and is now staring at a 2nd and 18, they\u2019d now need nine yards to meet the metrics criteria. On third and fourth down, you just need to do the deed. Get a first down (or touchdown) and you\u2019ve got yourself a successful play.\u00a0Defensive success rate is also tracked, and is simply the inverse of the offensive formula. Preventing 60%, then 50%, then 100% of yards gained is the goal.<\/p>\n<p>All that might seem quite obvious as the underlying goal of all football plays, and that\u2019s because it is. There\u2019s no reinventing the wheel happening here, and that\u2019s why success rate is the perfect launching point for a look into advanced stats. There\u2019s no secret mathematical formula and no subjective views. Nothing but cold, hard yardage and first downs, baby.\u00a0\u00a0There is, however, a particular use case for success rate amongst football fans and analysts, and that is as a superior form of the more common \u201cyards per play\u201d. The context of down and distance applied to success rate is a valuable insight into the actual story of the play.<\/p>\n<p>Say for instance, on third and 25, a quarterback is forced to resort to a short check-down throw to his running back, who miraculously manages to juke and stiff arm his way to a twenty yard gain. While that play will look impressive in the box score after the game, because he didn\u2019t gain the first down it\u00a0 cannot be counted as a \u201csuccessful\u201d play, according to the metric.\u00a0It\u2019s for this added layer of context that I find myself referring to success rate quite often as a football writer, especially when scouting for an upcoming team or player (success rate is also tracked at an individual level among quarterbacks). The stat can be most easily found via the team at\u00a0https:\/\/sumersports.com\/, and the site also allows you to refine your search to situations like non-garbage time, while leading or trailing, or even take snap counts in consideration for quarterbacks.<\/p>\n<p>So what can this tool tell us about the Packers? Let\u2019s take a look at where they stacked up in 2024. Matt Lafleur&#8217;s offense ended the year ranked 13th in success play rate at 44.4%, just ahead of the champion Philadelphia Eagles, while the defense surprisingly ended the year as 21st in this metric.\u00a0Jordan Love was the 16th ranked quarterback (with a snap count minimum of 100), a slight fall from his 14th rank in 2023. We can use the site\u2019s refinement feature to do a bit of digging however, and find that he was a top ten quarterback here when blitzed and on early downs, but fell on late downs. For those curious, Malik Willis was also included, and came in as the 46th ranked quarterback in this metric.<\/p>\n<p>So when we look at those numbers, what can we tell? Not much, which is the major drawback to success rate, and why it works best when looked in conjunction with other stats like EPA, is that it fails to recognize the \u201cmagnitude\u201d of a play. Six yard pass on first down? Successful play. Sixty yard pass on first down? Successful play as well, and counted just the same as the first example.\u00a0Having the additional knowledge that the Packers offense and Jordan Love were ranked quite highly among other offensive stats, combined with their success rate, could tell an observer that the Packers were a boom-or-bust offense, often looking for big explosive plays, and getting them too at an acceptable level.<\/p>\n<p>Does that all make sense? Great, now let\u2019s do a 180, and introduce PFF.<\/p>\n<p>Pro Football Focus (or just PFF) is perhaps the antithesis to this quick to understand, yes or no idea that is success rate. As a concept, PFF\u2019s most meaningful impact on the game of football is their player grading system, basically an attempt to reduce a player or team\u2019s performance to a single number or \u201cgrade\u201d. This grade is done on a 0-100 scale, with a \u201c60\u201d marking an average performance.<\/p>\n<p>To do this, PFF employs analysts that watch every snap of a player\u2019s performance in a game, and uses a scale to provide that player with a plus or minus score. The end of game score is converted into the 0-100 scale, at the game and season long level. According to their site, there are multitudes of data collected on every play that impact that score, likely to avoid the implication that players are graded on a subjective basis, but that\u2019s only one of the many concerns that can be expressed about the PFF system, including not knowing the play being called, the experience of the graders themselves, and the system behind the scores itself. I\u2019m not here to answer every single one of the questions on behalf of PFF, but it\u2019s worth acknowledging that the company does not shy away from answering those questions, and their answers can be found. Of course, the most significant drawback to PFF in regards to the average fan is that their work is only available to those with a PFF subscription.<\/p>\n<p>Having gotten a first hand peek behind that PFF\u2019s curtain, I can report that the people I\u2019ve met there are some of the smartest and most passionate in the industry. On a personal basis, I do trust their process, but even if you don\u2019t (and that\u2019s okay!), I think it\u2019s obvious that their system of grading every player on every snap will, if nothing else, expose whether or not a player shows (b) consistency (b) in their play. Consistency is also a stated emphasis in their metric, shown through how they create their season long grades. These numbers are not just an average of total games played. For example, a player who would receive an 80 grade every game of the season would not just receive an 80 for the year, but because that impressive high-end consistency is so highly regarded, the final grade would actually rise higher.<\/p>\n<p>PFF also does a magnificent job in their own signature advanced stats metrics, even beyond the player \/ team grades, including their WAR stat (Wins Above Replacement), Turnover Worthy plays, and Elusive rating. There\u2019s also some things to appreciate about the way they gather stats, even more \u201cnormal\u201d ones. Just to give one example, if two players sack a quarterback at the same time standard statistics would register that play as a half sack for each, while PFF simply rewards both players with a full sack.<\/p>\n<p>In regards to the Packers, PFF had them ranked as the sixteenth overall graded team, tenth in offense and thirteenth in defense, while also receiving top five grades in more specific areas: coverage, tackling, run offense and pass blocking. Jordan Love was their seventeenth ranked quarterback, while Josh Jacobs was ranked fourth in rushing grade, and Xavier McKinney was their third highest ranked player in coverage grade.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cheeseheadtv.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pff_example.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As I mentioned at the top of the article, PFF is perhaps the most controversial topic in advanced stats today, mostly due to the human factor that is entered into the equation there. However, if you are someone who is curious about the numbers side of the game of football, PFF is a premium asset to have in your pocket. If you are also a college football person, the exact same metrics, advanced stats and grades are also given out to college football, providing valuable insight during the draft process.<\/p>\n<p>Both success rate and PFF share a certain simplicity. Success rate is a quick, easy to understand percentage, while PFF manages to provide users with a single number to summarize a player\u2019s performance. Both of these concepts are best used in conjunction with other advanced stats. In regards to success rate, it is most commonly associated with EPA (there\u2019s even a version of success rate that counts any play with a positive EPA as a successful one), while PFF player grades should be viewed in conjunction with their other stats, for even deeper understanding. Next week I\u2019m excited to expand our list of advanced stats with a look at DVOA, and Next Gen Stats.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before the season starts, a quick run through of advanced stat concepts. 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